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From Mike Drob <mad...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] 1.5.1-RC2
Date Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:40:17 GMT
I was reading that as "1.4.0->1.5.0" and "1.5.0 changes" were the same
thing. That is to say, we take the CHANGES file that shipped with 1.5.0 and
add another section to it, a la the 1.4.x series.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Keith Turner <keith@deenlo.com> wrote:

> Breaking 1.5.0 and 1.5.1 out seems like a seperate issue from adding
> 1.4.0->1.5.0 changes.  Adding 1.4.0->1.5.0 changes seems like a useful
> thing to communicate, but it was not in 1.5.0.  I am not sure it should
> hold up 1.5.1.  Maybe something to consider for 1.6.0 or 1.7.0?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:28 PM, John Vines <vines@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I prefer per minor release breakout of changes. Such that, the Changes
> file
> > should have one block for 1.5.0->1.5.1 changes (for those who are
> upgrading
> > from 1.5.0), but also the 1.4.0->1.5.0 changes (for those moving from
> 1.4.x
> > to 1.5.1).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Mike Drob <madrob@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I went back and looked at our release governance page[1] and it does
> > > explicitly state that votes will be 72 hours. So I was out of line when
> > > asking you to extend it and I'm not sure that the extension is valid at
> > > this point anyway. Lack of bylaws makes this a messy process.
> > >
> > > In light of this I am changing my vote from +1 to +0, since I did not
> > vote
> > > in the original time frame.
> > >
> > > [1]: http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#releasing
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Josh Elser <josh.elser@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alright, given the snow, holiday, and the lack of bylaws stating
> that I
> > > > cannot do this:
> > > >
> > > > I'm extending the VOTE on 1.5.1-RC2 until 02/19/2014 1900 EST (this
> > > > extends the original duration to a week for those keeping track).
> This
> > is
> > > > expected to provide an additional two full work days for people to
> > > inspect
> > > > the release.
> > > >
> > > > Let's get some good feedback before then, folks.
> > > >
> > > > - Josh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/15/14, 6:29 PM, Christopher wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Either way works for me.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was just suggesting a more formal approach in the absence of
> bylaws
> > > >> that explicitly permit extensions. The general concern, I suppose,
> is
> > > >> that vote extensions could be used to manipulate to a desired
> outcome
> > > >> in a majority approval scheme... so having the vote conditions fixed
> > > >> at the time it is announced prevents that. I don't think that's a
> > > >> serious concern, though... especially since we all have the same
> goal
> > > >> of producing a quality release, and preventing one that falls short
> of
> > > >> that.
> > > >>
> > > >> With the bylaws in place, things are simpler, because we'd have
> > > >> already agreed on those bylaws, and wouldn't need to do anything
> > > >> silly, like vote on whether to allow a vote extension in the first
> > > >> place (which would get obnoxious).
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Christopher L Tubbs II
> > > >> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Billie Rinaldi
> > > >> <billie.rinaldi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  A somewhat more formal way of "extending" the vote would be to
> > simply
> > > >>>> retract/cancel this vote (or let it lapse with no votes),
and just
> > > >>>> re-issue another vote with identical artifacts at a more opportune
> > > >>>> time. I point this out for two reasons:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 1) I don't want to undermine Josh's work to create this release
> > > >>>> candidate. He shouldn't have to do that again if nothing has
> changed
> > > >>>> and we just need more time to review. And,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2) The vote was called with a 72hr. notice, and changing that
> after
> > > >>>> the fact is probably a bit questionable. We can achieve the
same
> > > >>>> effect without modifying the characteristics of the vote,
by
> simply
> > > >>>> calling a new vote, identical to this one, later.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> I'm not sure that extending the vote is questionable.  I think
it
> > would
> > > >>> be
> > > >>> fine if Josh just said the vote deadline is extended to X (perhaps
> an
> > > >>> additional 72 hours, or maybe event one week from the original
post
> > > since
> > > >>> many people have Monday off).  Some Apache projects explicitly
> > mention
> > > >>> that
> > > >>> votes may be extended in their bylaws [1], so that's something
we
> > could
> > > >>> consider when we write ours.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But if people would feel more comfortable if Josh reposted the
> vote,
> > > I'm
> > > >>> sure he could do that.  :-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [1]: https://hc.apache.org/bylaws.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Christopher L Tubbs II
> > > >>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii@apache.org>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> More time would be great. I'll still try to finish up some
testing
> > by
> > > >>>>> tomorrow, but I can't make any guarantees.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
> > > >>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Josh Elser <
> josh.elser@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> If people want some extra time given the impact of snow,
please
> > > inform.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> ok with extending this a few days if it means people will
give it
> > > more
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> love.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 2/12/14, 6:50 PM, Josh Elser wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> All,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Please consider the following candidate as Apache
Accumulo
> 1.5.1
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Git artifacts: The staging repository was built
from the branch
> > > >>>>>>> "1.5.1-rc2" (c810f51b). No accompanying git tag
was created yet
> > (as
> > > >>>>>>> it
> > > >>>>>>> would be the same exact thing as providing the
above SHA1).
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Maven Staged Repo:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > >>>> orgapacheaccumulo-1001
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Source tarball:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>  http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > >>>> orgapacheaccumulo-1001/org/apache/accumulo/accumulo/1.5.
> > > >>>> 1/accumulo-1.5.1-src.tar.gz
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Binary tarball:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>  http://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> > > >>>> orgapacheaccumulo-1001/org/apache/accumulo/accumulo/1.5.
> > > >>>> 1/accumulo-1.5.1-bin.tar.gz
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Changes since 1.5.1-RC1: ACCUMULO-1908, ACCUMULO-1935,
> > > ACCUMULO-2299,
> > > >>>>>>> ACCUMULO-2329, ACCUMULO-2331, ACCUMULO-2332, ACCUMULO-2334,
> > > >>>>>>> ACCUMULO-2337, ACCUMULO-2342, ACCUMULO-2344, ACCUMULO-2356,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ACCUMULO-2360
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Changes since 1.5.0:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>  https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=accumulo.git;a=
> > > >>>> commitdiff;h=d277321d176b71753d391f896f09dc9785173cb0
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Keys: http://www.apache.org/dist/accumulo/KEYS
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Testing:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Manual testing and verification of fixes since
RC1 and 12hr CI
> > with
> > > >>>>>>> verification performed. All previously mentioned
testing done
> for
> > > >>>>>>> RC1.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> This vote will be open for the next 72 hours.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Upon successful completion of this vote, a 1.5.1
gpg-signed Git
> > tag
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> will
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> be created from c810f51b and the above staging repository
will be
> > > >>>>>>> promoted.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> - Josh
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
>

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