Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4A4510339 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 23:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21746 invoked by uid 500); 31 Oct 2013 23:14:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 21678 invoked by uid 500); 31 Oct 2013 23:14:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@accumulo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 21670 invoked by uid 99); 31 Oct 2013 23:14:59 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 23:14:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-lb0-f181.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username vines, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 23:14:59 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x18so2972763lbi.12 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:14:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=I4b9xj+pfpYQ8BlSPG2zzad5qdIDeljwNGv2/VbEs/0=; b=HqaiaadltxBsdKvlf0ZwJqfiHEwC0KmBJyx6AJP6AMlv/2Lnhm9/VwMz4mofAnWYFj SY5x4/yT+FtknhcvIgIh53QnSSg8FDIBIKjzHB+ingaeRa2vlBo4rCaWwbMJZlkLlU63 /jKEclZzG2f9lpBHoPRqh61sWXAWAwt5W/BXG9yWEaVEuP8N13sh/vh3RLASLWsJvEAY p9wyAnoy0Ucc+zeAws5Y1B/td8xQjbz2aVwqW5waQYUpaCqOfrYSlmqyeijQb7rAoYxh xanWOtd7pAejFN08L35cdvVIytc6HFysmNGxGha5O7lM6HjE6BzG2yst9JJGnA/Ge8a9 HAiA== X-Received: by 10.112.51.101 with SMTP id j5mr61820lbo.17.1383261297354; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:14:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: vines@apache.org Received: by 10.114.99.99 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:14:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: John Vines Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:14:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 1.6.0 Feature Freeze To: Accumulo Dev List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133646042af4104ea119e9f --001a1133646042af4104ea119e9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:45 PM, John Vines wrote: > > > > > All of your comments make sense to me. Unfortunately we're a bit stuck in > > the latter category. Going forward we can make steps as a community to > help > > prevent it, but that doesn't change this release. And beside issue of > > pulling out an incrementally committed feature, pulling out features > lends > > the potential for a release to be insubstantial. > > > > > There are 149 non-duplicate issues resolved marked for 1.6.0 that aren't > marked for a 1.5.x series[1]. > > That a good deal, though I admittedly don't know how substantial they are, > and I don't have a sense for how many would be *need* to be pulled out as > part of a major feature revert. > > > > So for the sake of the 1.6.0 release, what do we think we should do about > > the sub-tasks for added/expected features? Particularly ones deemed > > requisite for that feature to hit the mainline? > > > > Ultimately, if you're the release manager you get to decide. You can just > take a very permissive view on how far along things posted to review board > need to be at the start. Or a permissive view on what constitutes an update > "critical" for the release. > > I think we all want to avoid the ~5 months it took to get through RC on > 1.5, but I'd be happy with even the incremental improvement we'd have by > implementing Chris' suggestion on a review board choke point starting at > deadline. Even if things drag on past a week, the patches that come out of > those review boards will likely be far better organized than the frantic > updates we saw last time. > > Do we have a prioritized list yet? An idea of what the assigned people > think they'll hit by tomorrow night? A good list of gaps would help a great > deal in this discussion. > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-1832?filter=12325665 This is the filter I'm going by. I'm running with Christopher's suggestions to count things in review board as "in". Bugs are scoped as as they are bugs and more will be encountered as we test features, so they're still fair game. There is a discussion we should have post feature freeze for establishing guidelines for code freeze, etc. more concretely (we have this conversation every time, don't we?). But for now, I'm on feature freeze. Of those, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-1832?filter=12325666 are all the sub-tasks (though some should also qualify as bugs). For convenience, non-sub-tasks are https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-1000?filter=12325667 . Also worth noting that there's at least one parent task held open by nothing but Documentation, so there's a little less than the total here too. I tried to prioritize tickets as well, as there are plenty left which I think are okay to slip, but I'm uncertain of a lot of their statuses because they are owned by people. Roughly, I would say that the ones I'm most concerned about falling outside the RB guidelines are the top half of the sub-tasks, mostly due to the outcome of the features those sub-tasks are part of. > [1]: http://bit.ly/18H9jpx > > -- > Sean > --001a1133646042af4104ea119e9f--