Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 256C7106F5 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2157 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jun 2013 15:44:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-accumulo-dev-archive@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 2059 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jun 2013 15:43:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@accumulo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@accumulo.apache.org Received: (qmail 1544 invoked by uid 99); 18 Jun 2013 15:43:58 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:43:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of josh.elser@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.213.54] (HELO mail-yh0-f54.google.com) (209.85.213.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:43:52 +0000 Received: by mail-yh0-f54.google.com with SMTP id f73so1596659yha.27 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:43:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kgNWqOWc/ZnRxA1pE3Qs0GF3pbcGUgMtL9bHBhFzKis=; b=PbMezM2yWrM/3hz9BY8mLXJb1jc+d0SJmEsJAXaOHtqtXtd6Va3r3TbTAIugpOYAYI IzhRpB5MiyaxLFtgJKpg6y6k+Fp5UJTZw3B9bndYH+/faAnO5K5/pzsA6HlztNTLtzRb 4IfSah0Kf0o298c9vS2l9Wu+uGA3nul8sJbFzcw59/yZ8MDnF0LqbcNaxrVMDZmhtD+w PU+tvBiudDAjbML9EQyarqEINA+DKqpJf4CNgxI8RT+vzJev8KlAqyFRAgOcOdy0Lqzv 7elFqxza19h8TmB8viwYKY3oB/g4+mzb/QBhLxdEwP/8qmd68ysvbEpM468D6aQQksHi OlVg== X-Received: by 10.236.115.164 with SMTP id e24mr10957199yhh.182.1371570210955; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [144.51.26.21] ([144.51.26.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o1sm4331359yho.2.2013.06.18.08.43.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51C08021.1050201@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:43:29 -0400 From: Josh Elser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Subject: Re: Backporting policy proposal References: <51C07730.2050104@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 6/18/13 11:26 AM, Adam Fuchs wrote: > On Jun 18, 2013 11:05 AM, "Josh Elser" wrote: >> >> On 6/18/13 10:53 AM, Adam Fuchs wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2. Back-porting performance improvements to a prior release line that >>>>> is not EOL (end-of-life) is usually okay (subject to normal lazy >>>>> consensus), so long as it does not change user-facing behavior or API. >>>>> It is still strongly preferred to add such fixes in the older branch >>>>> first, and merge forward to the newer one(s). >>> >>> Agree, although doesn't the transition to git alleviate the problems with >>> order of operations? >>> >> >> I don't understand what you mean by "order of operations". If you push a > commit in 1.6.0-SNAPSHOT that should really be in 1.4.4-SNAPSHOT, Git will > not handle this well in terms of an accurate history. > > I don't really understand either -- that was mostly speculation. Doesn't > the reliance on hashes of the patch rather than commit IDs make it > immaterial as to which branch a patch was committed to first? Admitedly, I > am not an expert on git. > > Adam > No, that's incorrect. A commit is uniquely identified by a set of attributes which, most importantly, include the parent commit. As such, what you would have typically (happily) done with subversion (`svn merge -r 12345 .`) has implications to the Git history graph. The only way to accomplish this in Git is to cherry-pick that commit which causes multiple unique commits which apply the same changes to content. This also makes using tools like `git-bisect` much less effective as a bug introduced in a cherry-pick'ed commit now has multiple points of introduction instead of a single commit. In the downtime before we hear back from INFRA, it would be good to read through the documentation: http://git-scm.com/documentation