Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-abdera-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 55051 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 00:49:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 00:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1242 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2008 00:49:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-abdera-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1218 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2008 00:49:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact abdera-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: abdera-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list abdera-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1207 invoked by uid 99); 28 Oct 2008 00:49:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:49:59 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.111.4.25] (HELO out1.smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.25) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:48:44 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9169183C8D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:46:13 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: jhe7E9BK2d05cK/UcBEkUxoesvxrPpivrvUJoNuqtFIq 1225154773 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (pool-70-19-238-66.bos.east.verizon.net [70.19.238.66]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5676EE278 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <490660D4.7050504@anconafamily.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:46:12 -0400 From: Jim Ancona User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: abdera-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Graduation References: <4585c4a60810270730t7285352ayedbcabd95ee698e9@mail.gmail.com> <2CE10B2E-B4F3-437F-886B-7543D8DC85C1@gmail.com> <4585c4a60810270754p7931ac3bv24c7619dabff6787@mail.gmail.com> <7A095E94-B193-43DF-B610-EFCCDDE9F5AD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org No objection from me either. Jim David Calavera wrote: > Soooo, I forgot it, no objections to the graduation > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:32 AM, David Calavera wrote: > >> Hi Chris, I think Dan and the Mule guys have been using the version 0.4 for >> some time, but if you want to migrate to 0.4 now I recommend you to wait >> some weeks and the version 0.5 should be done. >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Chris Berry wrote: >> >>> Thanks. >>> I was under the impression that graduation == 1.0. >>> Cheers, >>> -- Chris >>> >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Chris Berry >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Only one question. Has anyone run Abdera 0.4.X through a serious >>>>> load/stability test? >>>>> I ask this because we are still on 0.3.0 which had some very large >>>>> memory >>>>> leaks that we've patched (and sent info about to Abdera). >>>>> And we have not yet upgraded to 0.4.X because we were waiting for it to >>>>> stabilize and most bugs to get expunged. >>>>> But mostly because upgrading will not be trivial as the API changed a >>>>> great >>>>> deal between 0.3 and 0.4. >>>>> Given this history, it might be prudent that Abdera get that sort of >>>>> test >>>>> prior to 1.0 ? >>>>> We would do it, but as I said, are still at 0.3.0. (And one should use >>>>> a >>>>> relatively real world app to load test with) >>>>> >>>>> All that said, we are very eager to see the graduation, which should >>>>> indicate that the API is relatively fixed. >>>>> >>>> Let me reiterate: Graduation has NOTHING to do with technical >>>> readiness for any given release. It is simply moving the project from >>>> the incubator to its own top level ASF project. There is no >>>> indication that any API is finalized when we graduate, there is no >>>> need to do a special release, etc. >>>> >>>> That isn't to say that all of the things you're mentioning shouldn't >>>> be done, of course they should be. It's just to say that graduation >>>> is about the state of the project's community, and is largely >>>> orthogonal to the state of the actual code. >>>> >>>> -garrett >>>> >>> S'all good --- chriswberry at gmail dot com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> David Calavera >> http://www.thinkincode.net >> > > >